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« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2008, 04:48:05 PM »


Bila Sabah government baru start guna solar energy? KL dan Sarawak sudah pakai dan digalakkan oleh kerajaan negeri. Untuk pendalaman Kita banyak water fall, kenapa tidak bulih pakai air? Kita boleh pakai angin juga pada siapa yang tinggal di pulau atau tepi laut.

saya igt, dulu ums ada buat pkai ni solar energy di kawasan samada d kudat/kota marudu/kota belud...
ndak berapa ingat exact location tp mmg ada ums buat la....sy ada t'baca fail tu ms sy kerja skjap sm engineering konsultnt.....

solar tu ok...but bulih tahan mahal. itu photovoltaic....sapa yg pernah pakai tu kalkulator solar....tu pakai konsep yg sama la. sgt b'gantung kepada cahaya matahari. nnt mlm trus teda letrik pula Tongue
tp solar energy mmg enviromntally friendly. kalo korg mo pasang solar letrik di rumah, ok...but ada mcm2 lg mo di pasang....so konfem belanja besar... Sweaty






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« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2008, 05:10:04 PM »

Ada kawan sia sudah pakai solar di rumah sudah beberapa tahun. Mereka cakap ok juga. For long run, tetap murah. The gomen should encourage the housing developer to use solar like what they did in KL.

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« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2008, 04:04:03 PM »

Kita sering diperbodohkan oleh TNB...
Sekarang TNB cakap coal mahal dan diorang rugi...
Kalau macam tu macamana dengan kes coal plan yang Sabah punya...

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Daily Express
17/10/2008
Link: http://www.dailyexpress.com.my/news.cfm?NewsID=60448


Cheaper power out as coal price high, says TNB

Kuala Lumpur: Tenaga Nasional Bhd (TNB) says it cannot reduce the electricity tariff as coal price, which accounts for 60 per cent of its power generating cost, has remained above US$75 (RM250) per metric tonne.

The tariff hike on July 1 was based on the US$75 price.

Its President and Chief Executive Officer, Datuk Seri Che Khalib Mohamad Noh said 60 per cent of power was generated from its gas power plant and 30 per cent coal, but in terms of cost, coal took up 60 per cent and gas 40 per cent.

"A 10 per cent increase in coal price would mean six per cent increase in fuel cost," he said after announcing TNB's financial performance. Its pre-tax profit for the year ended Aug 31, 2008 declined by RM1.74 billion to RM3.02 billion compared with RM4.7 billion previously.

Che Khalib said the high cost of operation was the reason why even with the recent tariff hike, the utility giant registered a pre-tax loss of RM275.2 million for the fourth quarter ended Aug 31, 2008 compared with a gain of RM329.5 million in the same quarter of 2007.

"We registered a loss despite the tariff increase by 26 per cent because fuel cost alone increased by RM1 billion."

A main feature of the tariff structure is a "lifeline tariff rate" where household consumers whose monthly power consumption was up to 200kWh would see no change in the rates. This group of consumers represents 59.1 percent of households.

A further 26.7 percent of total household consumers with monthly consumption of 201 to 400 kWh are expected to see one percent to 11 percent increase in their monthly electricity bill.

He explained that the tariff hike was based on coal price of US$75 per metric tonne but the average price during the financial year was US$76.

"Even though the coal price has come down from US$150 to US$120 on average, it is still way above the price that was used for the tariff hike."

Effective June 4, the Government raised the gas price to RM14.31 million british thermal unit (mbtu) from RM6.40 mbtu. Gas sold to TNB by Petronas has been subsidised at RM14.31 mbtu compared to the actual price at RM30 per mbtu.

"So, we admit that oil price has come down but people must understand that the coal price did not come down as much," he said.

Che Khalib said, TNB has not locked in its coal need for 2009 and 2010 yet due to the volatility in the coal price.

"They say the only way the coal price is going to move is north and buyers like us we wouldn't want to lock in the price when the prices are going up."

TNB, he said has only locked in its coal needs for September to December 2008 period at US$116 per metric tonne.

Meanwhile, TNB wants the Independent Power Producers (IPPs) to share the burgeoning operating cost with it, as not doing so would have a negative impact on the whole industry.

"Any imbalances in the structure of pricing between the IPPs and TNB, will not only post challenges to TNB but the overall power supply industry.

"So, it is important to note this," its Chairman, Tan Sri Amar Leo Moggie said.

He said when TNB expressed its opinion on the rising operating cost, which obviously puts a lot of pressure on the company, the perception is that it was merely concerned with its profit and loss.

"Yes, we are concerned about TNB's financial position. But we are also concerned about the risk of supply and security in the power sector. So, we hope that the IPPs can also contribute towards the increased operating cost to the industry," he said.

He said any increase in the operating cost over a period of time would be difficult to sustain and can happen at a stage where consumers would have no choice but to share it by way of higher tariff.

"So, if we want to defer any review on the tariff structure, it is important that people in the power supply industry share the cost," said Leo Moggie.

He said even though the Government had already said it would not discuss the issue, TNB hoped this position could be reviewed in the future.
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« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2008, 02:05:50 PM »

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Site already booked for S'kan coal plant?

Kota Kinabalu: The Sabah Environment Protection Association (Sepa) urged Sabah Electricity Sdn Bhd Saturday to confirm or deny whether it is going ahead with the proposed 300MW coal-fired power plant in Sandakan.

"We have information that SESB has booked and enblocked 500 acres at the POIC site in Seguntor Bay just 6km from the Sepilok Orang-utan Centre," Sepa President Wong Tack told a press conference.

"We want to know why SESB is so secretive about it after they had promised a transparent EIA process because they had steadfastly denied a suitable site had been identified," Wong said.

" If they have identified the site, they should announce it publicly. The people have to know. You want us to participate in the Environment Impact Assessment process, yet you are not telling where you propose to locate the project but we have information that planning of the site is going on at the POIC Sandakan," Wong Tack said.

"Public participation is the most important component in any terms of reference and EIA process," Wong Tack reminded SESB.

"No project should be forcibly imposed on the community. It must have pubic acceptance especially on a large private profit making independent power plant like this which involves large-scale discharge of chemically treated water wastes and gaseous emissions.

"The tourism trade people are worried because POIC Sandakan is so near a world renowned tourism destination just 6km away. We have fishing villages half a kilometre across the Seguntor river mouth and housing estates just 3 to 4km away inland.

"We object to the proposed coal-fired plant in Sandakan because it is totally incompatible with the Sabah Development Corridor which calls for sustainable development."

Wong said the fears are that the IPP coming from outside would dispose of toxic pollutants such as chlorine oxide into a pristine marine environment from the plant's water cooling system," Wong said, adding that 50,000 people and 30 NGOs had signed up to oppose the project.

Wong said Sepa appreciated Chief Minister Datuk Musa Aman's statement on the health risks and eco reasons for scrapping the Silam site on April 2 this year urging SESB and TNB to look for alternative sources of energy.

"Sandakan's environment is probably more sensitive than Silam," he said.

"Seguntor Bay is a bay within Sandakan Bay and no one should put a coal-fired power plant on a bay," Wong said.

"The EIA study done earlier in connection with the POIC project found rich marine life including whales, dolphins, turtles and sea cows but this is not open sea. When you discharge millions of litres of chlorine-laced cooling water, toxic wastes are likely to accumulate and damage the water quality," noted Gary Yap , head of Sepa Tawau.

"In addition, it is located right next to the biggest Ramsar site in Malaysia - the lower Kinabatangan Ramsar site. We urge the proponents to scrap the project immediately.

Wong also urged the SESB to immediately look into alternative energy sources "without delay."

He cited SESB's own study going back to 1984 culminating in a 1994 Master Plan which found Sabah actually had a potential for 1900MW of hydro power alone, he told reporters.

"The public meeting called by Sabah Environment Protection Department to discuss the terms of reference on the proposed 200MW Ulu Padas hydro project early this week was among many. But why did TNB and SESB keep telling the people of Sabah that there was no other option but coal?" Wong Tack said.

"We urge SESB to build the Ulu Padas hydro project as well as the proposed 300MW Kimanis gas power plant quick so that the two can be hooked up to generate more than 500MW of power to expedite the building of the Keningau-Tawau transmission loop to deliver power direct to the East Coast," Wong said.

"Aside from Ulu Padas, Liwagu is capable of another 200MW of hydro power. We also know Ulu Segama also has a good site identified for a major hydro dam because the forests have been logged so heavily that flooding the area won't do damage any more, in addition to numerous mini hydro sites," Wong asserted.

" But natural gas is one of our best alternatives. We know the 60MW Labuan gas power plant can easily be doubled while the 100MW gas plant at KKIP is under extension for another 180MW," Wong Tack said.

A 13MW biomass power plant is being built in Beluran while another 10MW one is being planned for Lahad Datu, Wong said.

"Based on wind chart studies done by Nasa on the Philippines which somehow included northern Sabah because of proximity, they found Kudat can provide substantial wind power, probably in the region of 1000MW because of consistent wind flow.

"These facts are known to wind power engineers. So why not the SESB invest in a pilot project here and research to try to make it work for Sabah instead of telling us they have exhausted all options," Wong said.

Meanwhile, Sepa founder Henry Chok urged the State to stick to the original "no' decision on coal-fired power plants.

"We have been fighting a lot of environmental issues.

Every time the Government will come out to say 'we scrap it', then suddenly it come up again," he charged.

"I think this has to stop . Once you have certain objections from the public, it should stop," Chok said.


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« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2008, 03:44:56 PM »

The end justifies means ... mmmm
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« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2008, 04:14:46 PM »

Kes ini macam oil and gas paip dari kimanis to bintulu bah. PM dulu cakap sudah stop, petronas go ahead sija. Kelmarin PM cakap diteruskan. CAKAP TAK SERUPA BIKIN!
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« Reply #36 on: April 29, 2009, 10:25:30 AM »

Saya baru dapat info dari SESB, sekarang ni KK and area2 di sekitarnya kena catuan letrik sebab sekarang ni memang ada masalah bekalan. Menurut sumber yg boleh dipercayai....mungkin masalah ni akan berlarutan sampai bulan Ogos....

Ada siapa2 yg mau tambah...manatau ada detail yg lebih terperinci??
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« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2009, 10:39:42 AM »

Saya baru dapat info dari SESB, sekarang ni KK and area2 di sekitarnya kena catuan letrik sebab sekarang ni memang ada masalah bekalan. Menurut sumber yg boleh dipercayai....mungkin masalah ni akan berlarutan sampai bulan Ogos....

Ada siapa2 yg mau tambah...manatau ada detail yg lebih terperinci??


sia punya info pulak...itu 2 power station di labuan dan tenom sedang upgrading so terpaksa buat catuan seluruh Sabah...dijangka berlarutan sehingga June!!
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« Reply #38 on: April 29, 2009, 11:08:52 AM »

sia punya info pulak...itu 2 power station di labuan dan tenom sedang upgrading so terpaksa buat catuan seluruh Sabah...dijangka berlarutan sehingga June!!

Macam tu lah mula2 saya dengar dari SESB....tapi kawan saya ni dulu kerja SESB dia yg handle masalah pasal kurang letrik d Sabah. Dia masih lagi ada close kontek sama org SESB, lagipun bini dia masih keja sana. Entahlah mana satu yg betul.... tapi kalau betullah sampai bulan 8 ni masalah berpanjangan....punyalah menyusahkan dan memalukan. Teruk bisnes nanti.
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« Reply #39 on: April 29, 2009, 01:45:44 PM »

Sampai bulan jun , sampai bulan Aug ??? waii nahhhh indak bulih begitu tuh 1-2 hari ok lah .. kalau begitu lama susah itu tau ... Tapi betul kah upgrading , sekali tengok rosak , mau tunggu parts , sekrang tengah cari hehhehe
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« Reply #40 on: November 01, 2009, 10:28:59 AM »

The Star: NGOs push for green energy in Sabah (1/11/2009)

NGOs involved are Land Empowerment Animals People (LEAP), Partners of Community Organisations (Pacos Trust), the Sabah Environmental Protection Association (Sepa), the Malayan Nature Society (Sabah branch) and the state office of WWF Malaysia.

visit: www.nocoalsabah.blogspot.com
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« Reply #41 on: November 09, 2009, 06:46:01 PM »

Daily Express: Much time wasted in solving Sabah's power woes, says PM (09/11/2009)

Link: http://www.dailyexpress.com.my/news.cfm?NewsID=68713

I like to comment this...
Kalau sincere punya inda payah susah2 pikir...
Punyalah banyak Engineer Malaysia/Phd tapi satu pun inda buli pakai....
Ada banyak option tapi alasan satu - arang batu saja...
Mana buli jadi ni?

Kalau tidak pun panggillah European/US punya specialist...
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« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2009, 01:25:50 AM »

Isu nie ndak tau selesai kah sudah belum .... Tungu punya tunggu kita juga sengsara nanti ... Kenapa mau pakai coal plan sendangkan ada sumber yang lain lagi yang freeeeeee lagi ... Kenapa ndak pakai air ? Buat empangan .. kenapa mau pakai arang batu ? Arang batu nanti kena beli lagi .. belanja lagi ... kalau pakai air , buat empangan , ndak payah beli beli sudah kan kan ...

kesimpulannya , kalau pakai arang batu , kita kena beli .. ada satu company beli arang batu , jual sama itu SESB atau mana mana lah kasi supply sama itu coal plant .. so money money money , must be funny , in the rich man's world ...Kalau pakai air , buat empangan emmm .. air kan free mana lah ada duit masuk ..tiada lah orang tertentu yang untung melainkan rakyat  Devilish Devilish Devilish Devilish
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« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2009, 08:44:21 AM »

In the end keputusan buat coal plant di Felda Lahad Datu.....arang batu main import dari China sebab murah....tapi sia rasa tu 1 gimik jak tu...coz pernah ada ura-ura ada company mo mining coal sana Maliau Basin...ada deposit gred A punya arang batu yang banyak tapi ndak kena approved!!...kunun mo mining underground so diatas permukaan bumi ndak terganggu ekosistem kunuk.....sia rasa once tu coal plant beroperasi....pastu kos membeli arang batu dari luar meningkat....trus diorg pigi mine sana Maliau basin juga tuu....tgklah!!! ramai org tamahak bah nii..... Glare Glare
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« Reply #44 on: November 10, 2009, 09:00:41 AM »

tapi sia rasa tu 1 gimik jak tu... ramai org tamahak bah nii..... Glare Glare

betul tu..!!! Glare
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